tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post989722038521976702..comments2012-05-06T21:22:54.607-07:00Comments on Notes from Tampa: Who Saw That Coming?Minimar7http://www.blogger.com/profile/07068266504414516252noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-90458480621262166302012-05-03T15:05:36.647-07:002012-05-03T15:05:36.647-07:00Church folks, including Methodists, generally are ...Church folks, including Methodists, generally are considerate and concerned with the well-being of others (read: clergy); but, the record of chusrch shrinkage tells us, less sensitve to effectiveness than we MUST BECOME in order to Keep Jesus Christ present in our society. This move was neededAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-90560081219850016432012-05-03T12:23:02.221-07:002012-05-03T12:23:02.221-07:00Thanks, Mary Spradlin....Thanks, Mary Spradlin....paullaruehttp://q.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-37027207006274636072012-05-03T12:21:26.038-07:002012-05-03T12:21:26.038-07:00Because I was deemed qualified to be a clergy memb...Because I was deemed qualified to be a clergy member of our Annual Conference in 1951, I was able to speak prophetically (I believe) on important --- that is "controversial" issues. Although some in the congregation asked for a change of pastors, our bishop found another place where I was able to serve effectively.<br /><br />A friend in a denomination with a "call" system was stuck in place when he needed to move. With the long delay in that call coming, his family suffered economically and emotionally.<br /><br />Both systems have faults and advantages.<br /><br />I am glad for the amendment that was added -- so a bishop needs to report on those not appointed. .... hopefully, that will moderate the effect of the main motion -- for justice.<br /><br />Retired Clergy in Oregon /// Paul LaRuepaullaruehttp://q.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-34416641167881565872012-05-03T06:06:24.074-07:002012-05-03T06:06:24.074-07:00Thank you for your excellent recapitulation of the...Thank you for your excellent recapitulation of the process of this matter!Milo Thornberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11845016303101455368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-40910393310545098122012-05-02T21:43:03.776-07:002012-05-02T21:43:03.776-07:00I am interested in the way the decision making bod...I am interested in the way the decision making bodies, bishop or whoever... MEASURE the effectiveness of a clergyperson. I am hoping it is not by numbers in the church. How is the effectiveness of a pastor measured? Is it all subjective?<br />Nancy Ericksen Ward<br />St Paul Center UMC,<br />Springfield, OregonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-28324008314250083302012-05-02T21:25:49.321-07:002012-05-02T21:25:49.321-07:00I wonder if the UMC didn't just vote for a mor...I wonder if the UMC didn't just vote for a more intense clergy shortage? Who would want to attend three years of seminary, come out with a large debt, and not be assured of being able to put it to use? And receive a salary that is less than average for their state?<br /><br />The freedom of the pulpit to preach as we feel God leading us to preach is also threatened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-39034298317759203682012-05-02T10:59:19.153-07:002012-05-02T10:59:19.153-07:00Thank you for this blog! Your ease and clarity of ...Thank you for this blog! Your ease and clarity of speech is very much appreciated. The posts are quite informative and do a great job summarizing potentially mind-numbing and tedious debates, papers, and information.<br /><br />Again, thanks. These are great.<br />Kevin.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07757665626018949379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-76960402958365042952012-05-02T10:40:52.286-07:002012-05-02T10:40:52.286-07:00Wow! (That is all I can muster at this point)Wow! (That is all I can muster at this point)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970994196393368609.post-9850065295482483712012-05-01T20:31:39.053-07:002012-05-01T20:31:39.053-07:00Thank you for your careful explanation of what hap...Thank you for your careful explanation of what happened. It makes me almost sicker at my stomach to read this. How carelessly the GC has proven itself to be with the thousands of faithful clergy who serve in nearly impossible situations, and now will find themselves cast out. I weep for this day and for our connection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com